Me? A yaoi fangirl?

Some random guy left a comment on my post, which was sarcastically lamenting about Gundam Unicorn’s lack of pretty boys. I’m laughing at the irony. Now, I don’t dislike yaoi for the same reason I like traps: people have funny reactions to them.  I watch gundam because I have a thing for giant robots, pretty boys are just an added plus because it makes me feel nostalgic. Also, in my mind shiny giant robots are just another form of fan service, but that’s going off topic.

What I find interesting is that I have been accused to being something close to a yaoi fangirl for the first time in my life. It’s also the first time someone said they wanted to “hate me to death”. Now, that brings up a question. Is that comment directed towards someone who anon thought wanted something different for a series they love? Or is that comment directed to someone who anon thought was a yaoi fangirl? If it’s the former, I say I don’t give a damn whether you like the same thing as me or not, the story’s already written and you just wasted your time leaving a comment. If it’s the latter, then I really want some other opinions about all this hate for yaoi.

I’ve never hated something just because there was yuri in it, so how come yaoi is so bad? Is is the material itself, or is it the people who like them? I had one friend who was an extreme yaoi fangirl, it was kind of annoying because she would rant about it, but that wouldn’t make me hate semi-implied homosexuality (it’s not you, Alice-hime). I also don’t think that so many yaoi haters all have the same experience, so maybe it’s simply a side effect of being around so many anon…

One last thing.

These aren’t particularly pretty in my eyes. But if they’re burning your eyeballs and giving you immense pain, please leave a comment and tell me why.

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24 thoughts on “Me? A yaoi fangirl?

  1. DAMNIT THEY BURN! Thats not the kind of thing i want to see…My reason for disliking This is mainly I dont want to see it…i’d be fine with fangirls if they wee not so obsesive and it…

  2. isn’t it just the male homophobia business?

    that and the fact a lot of yaoi tends to get inserted where it really doesn’t belong

    but other than that, those venomously hating yaoi while likeing yuri are being hypocrites. I mean, you don’t see those with yuri goggles attracting so much hate.

    • possibly,
      short term memory*
      good point and the reason i try not to bash on yaoi

      that said, a warning before that image might have been nice

  3. I hate yaoi when it’s inserted into a series that yaoi has no fucking place to be in. That means the shitloads of yaoi in shounen series like One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, D.Gray-Man, etc. where the basis for most pairings seems to be dislike / rivalry.

    “Oh hey, Zoro and Sanji are always fighting, let’s pair them up!”
    “Oh hey, Kanda and Allen don’t like each other, let’s pair them up!”
    “Oh hey, Kakashi and Iruka talked to each other that one time, let’s pair them up!”

    Basically, I consider it one of the worst forms of character derailment, where the fans insert in shit that doesn’t even fucking belong in there. Frankly, I’d hate yuri for the exact same reason, except I don’t read or watch any series that people insert yuri in, since shounen series seem to be all ’bout yaoi.

    Furthermore, most pairings I see have about as much originality as a Carlos Mencia joke. Like I stated above, most of the yaoi doujinshi seem to involve pairings with two characters who constantly fight with each other (meaning the Kakashi / Iruka thing is actually somewhat unique). Yaoi fans apparently see things that aren’t there, stuck in their self-deluded fantasy. And what’s more, they don’t even manage to come up with any good pairings. No, it’s just two pretty boys fucking each other.

    If a series was a BL series from the start, or was intended to have male/male pairings, then I don’t give a shit. But adding it where it has no right to be in it really annoys me. It’s just as bad as Mary Sue-inserted fan fictions, and a part of shipping wars as a whole, and you know shipping wars are never any good.

    A yaoi fan playing the marty is in reality little more than a deluded whiner.

  4. uh…

    i think my eyes just got burned. REPEATEDLY.

    I have no trouble with Choux or anything she likes, but Yaoi of itself is okay with me if they didn’t give it all the stereotypes like the forceful and the one on bottom…etc.

    If two man wants to feel attracted to one another, it’s totally cool.

    I am perfectly okay with Baka To Test To Shukanjuu’s student president being in love with Yoshi and his cute little love letters, I thought they were funny and sweet.

    But when it’s two PURPOSELY made SUPPOSEDLY hot bishonen giving the eye flash and glow and like just these mushy stuff that is purposely targeted at Yaoi fangirls, I’m not okay with.

  5. Which brings me to another worry. I am not into Yaoi, so I obviously am not gay. But…

    *Story time*

    mandatory floor meeting at 7:15, i zoned out in WoW for a bit that I missed it. so i went to see at 7:25, it was over. I knocked on the girls’ door closest to the meeting and opened it. It was unlocked. She was changing so she told me to close the door and she said she was changing. I closed the door behind me and I asked “you’re okay with me standing here watching you change but you are afraid of others walking by and seeing it?”

    she said she didn’t care if i see it, so after she got done and turned around, i flipped up her shirt. she was more confused than angry. i said “i don’t get to see this often.”

    then i left. and i realized, i didn’t feel excited by it at all. I didn’t feel like telling her that I don’t feel excited or interested in looking at her body, cause that’d just be mean and I don’t know her all that well. i just know she’s one of those sensitive types that will keep telling herself something in her mind afterwards. so i end with saying “i don’t get to see this often” and left and hear her laughing after i close the door instead of being honest and say “just double checking. nope, not aroused the slightest bit. bye”

    • Not being into Yaoi doesn’t equal straightness. There are people who just don’t like porn.

      And I think that was pretty normal. It’s kind of like soap. It can have sexual connotations, but does anyone think about that when they wash their hands? I don’t think so.

      • Wait, yaoi necessarily equals porn? I mean, I thought it’s just the pairing, not necessarily the gay version of ecchi?

        I seem to be having trouble discerning the lie between shounen-ai and yaoi.

      • Yes, yaoi=porn. Shounen-ai or BL, on the other hand, is just about the pairing, with no age limit. However, both can be applied to two people who have absolutely no connection to each other by a fan or a non-fan.

  6. Yaoi to me is just imagination of two pretty boys doing certain interaction. Since the concept is fairly straightforward, but the occurrence rate of it is fairly low, I’m not particularly bothered by it.

    Under certain circumstances it is used as a mean of comedy under imagination scenarios. When it’s actually integrated … well, I haven’t encountered that enough.

    It’s kind of ironic since the magnitude of yaoi rejection is quite high, as its allocation is low. In terms of traps I could always state how the allocation of the character is low, and prior to the discovery of the character being male, the trap is already appealing, probably prettier and more interesting than the other girls, and is usually quite balanced (or not annoying). So again, you can correlate amusement similarly, but the magnitude of rejection highly differs. (I guess being a really pretty boy vs a really pretty looking girl makes a huge difference.)

    Now I was going to say some protags tend to have homosexual rejection to traps, but for yaoi implications for comedic reasons, it is also rejected, so this point is moot. However, when Yaoi is actually integrated, it’s really integrated. This has not occurred with a trap on a medium that has pure linearity. Not only that, but in terms of imaginary pair-ups, it’s usually comprised of two critical male characters extremely relevant to the plot/title. Traps don’t have the same correlation, because in most cases the premise wasn’t critical enough to generate that scenario.

    Even if an image of a male protag and a trap were generated, at first glance it would look straight anyways …. For that same reason imaginary scenarios don’t happen, nor would fanart of it really occur. Well it’s all boys’ love anyways lol.

    Quite frankly a lot of things seems more enjoyable when prettier. Even for mechs, maybe if it’s shinier with its glitter generated from beams, is also more appealing.

    In terms of the Yaoi, Yuri thing, it’s possible the pool of people looking up things in general are probably majority guys. And then the homosexual implicit thing triggers. This can only explain the discrepancy of the emphasis of distaste (or the fact that you’ll see more people liking Yuri than Yaoi I suppose).

    I think it’s preferential mismatch, honestly.

  7. My eyes now are fine… a while ago there wouldn’t be burning but maybe a twitch and some stinging. I used to avoid yaoi like the plague, but as i started watching more and more anime and got more into variety I saw it was everywhere. So now I just take it as a cultural thing and move on. If Americans like to see people doing the bump and grind on tv why can’t they like to see guys holding hands and pecking each other on the cheek (it’s a lot tamer). To be honest I kinda fell out of manga and anime a while ago, and now I’m hooked on kpop and other various Korean stuff, but I think the conversion is the same. Going from why would people enjoy that to seeing okay that’s a little cute. Well Loveless helped a lot I still like that anime, sure there were underage catboys in love, but it didn’t detract from the story and it wasn’t obscene. Maybe the fact hat i have 0% of homopobicity in my bones helps.

  8. What a homophobic twit. There are certainly better ways to get your point across other than being rude to the author.

    A more intelligent response would definitely have been given more consideration. Comments like that you just shrug and forget about because they aren’t worth the time to respond to.

    As for Yaoi, I never used to be into it, then imouto totally corrupted me.

    My view is pretty much the same as maggeh’s. If the characters are established as gay I have no problem with the relationship and as long as the story is good would read it just like any other manga or fic.

    But if the characters are obviously het. I believe Naruto has been pining after Sakura since the beginning of the manga, then pairing him with Sasuke just makes no sense to me.

    So Gaara x Naruto, Naruto X Sasuke, Ichigo x Uryuu, Ichigo x Renji, etc etc I just can’t get interested in.

    I like love, I like romance, to me if its well done, it doesn’t matter if its boy X boy, girl X girl, boy X girl.

    Course as LiteratiTempo says, maybe that is because I don’t have a homophobic bone in my body.

    @ TNH, I wouldn’t worry about it, maybe she just wasn’t your type. I can see a dude with his shirt off, but if he isn’t my type then its not going to do a damn thing for me.

  9. It’s more or less the lighting rod “issue” we UC oldfags blame for the cancer that is killing Gundam. Yaoi is fine I just don’t want it in UC Gundam. SEED, GSD, and to a lesser extent Wing these days was seen as expanding the audience to fans of something other than mecha. We can be a cankerous lot and do feel pangs of rage when others care more about pretty boys than pretty mecha.

    Still welcome to the Gundam Fandom where we rarely if ever agree on anything. Then there is also the sad reality that there is hardly any real yuri in Gundam though there is plenty of hostility towards perceived yaoi overtones. At the very least tell me you have one favorite mecha when watching this.

    • I always lean towards mechs that are closer to the original gundam, but less chunky (streamline is always good). For that reason, I refuse to accept the existence of the mermaid gundam. If it’s just design wise, I like OO’s exia (simple and elegant, with nothing sticking out).

      • Agree, something I really liked about 00 was the more streamlined designs for the Gundams.

        Still trying to talk hubby into an Exia model, still drooling over the 00 Raizer.

    • Funnily enough I’m not a big fan of the yaoi overtones in Gundam myself.

      I primarily watch for the sweet, glorious, shiny mecha and would prefer the focus on that.

      The nekkidness in space during Gundam 00 was just ugh…

  10. Actually no this does not burn my eyes. I actually do like yaoi. I know sometimes we fangirls actually do muck up people fandoms. I’m really sorry for that. Yes, I know in naruto kakashi and iruka have talked to each other once but it’s almost how should I put this excepted when you have a SasuNaru story. For example naruto was adopted by iruka the same for itachi and sasuke. Kakashi and iruka got together for SasuNaru to get together. Also, I know I used to be a rabid yaoi fangirl but I toned down. I now know what real homophobia. If you don’t like yaoi it’s fine. Plus I understand how we can get sometimes. In fact yaoi isn’t really umm gay Bara is gay with muscle, hair and everything what real men look like. Think about Asuma from naruto is bara(using example) compared to Sasuke or Haku is yaoi a boy but cuter leaner the works(using example). So to wrap it all up I understand us fangirls can be bitches but what really gets us going I guess is when someone is like..”Eww Yaoi or Ugh gay fags or even what is the gay shit.” thanks for understanding.

    • I’m confused at what you’re trying to say and who you’re directing this comment against. Some anon were being rude, and accused me of being a yaoi fangirl among other things, and I wanted some other opinions on why they did it. I don’t have anything against fangirls of any type or yaoi, and I apologize if you interpreted it that way. But most of your comment made no sense to me. Can you clarify it?

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